First I am wishing one and all a good holiday season!  It is time of year for renewal, for days will start getting longer now. 

We are having discussions about basic claims we are making at Outlands Community, and that is the lacking of "hard science", specifically math, for backing up our statements about living in other dimensions.  I will explain as best as I can!

I can write here all that I want that I am a person living in another dimension, but who is to be believing me?  What can I show to make others understand.  I see a number of problems here and wish to begin to discuss, or mention them. 

First of all, here on the Internet people can become whoever they want to become.  Lonely old lady can become sexy young woman, married businessman can become junior high school boy and get into steamy conversations with young girls.  Dishonest software people can be offering all kinds of nonsense to infect computer.  If you have been online for long time, you are knowing what I mean.

So, here is Stavros, claiming to be archon from other dimension, channneled by flesh-and-blood person named Roy who is living in Clifton New Jersey.  If you are good at this sort of thing you can get IP number and find out this much is true:  IP address is for computer belonging to someone named Roy in Clifton.  But what about rest of claim?  Is not it easier to assume, on your part, that 'Roy' is making up whole thing, or maybe is crazy person?  Of course!  At same time, we are not looking for donation or followers, you are believing this, being entertained by it, possibly wondering if is true - or you are thinking, whole thing is foolishness.  All of which is understandable for reasons I list.

Then there is the matter of science, what you may be calling "hard science."  By example is physics.  One hundred years ago Einstein published his Theory of Relativity, which set the stage for much of physics to come: nuclear physics, quantum physics, chaos theory all are deriving from Einstein.  Today much money is being spent on particle colliders to work out solidity of physics theory, which is much math work going back to Einstein, continued by Planck, Feyneman and Greene, made popular to some degree by Paul Davies.  Theory says if this particle collides with that particle, these other particles should be occuring.  Research is showing consistency of theory, is some pieces yet to be 'discovered,' but consistency of theory in relation to what is called Standard Model of particle physics is mathematically sound and is yielding sufficient results that grants and allocations for continuation of work is generally forthcoming both from governments and private sector.

Existence of archons in other dimensions is not having much similar science to back up such a claim! It is true that some extensions of what is called String Theory in physics allows for other dimensions, but these dimensions are one- or two- dimensional in relation to world which you know, which is appearing to be three-dimensional.  Also such 'one-dimensional' dimensions are supposedly very small; but size is relative when you are discussing one-, two - and three-dimensional universes.  One-dimension universe is in common conception a point, smallest possible area to be occupied by anything; or at best is line, not even drawing of circle or triangle, which would be being two-dimensional object.  Here I might add comment about place and perception, but will be philosphy and not mathematical model.

You who are reading this are living on planet, Earth, and you have where you live as reference to size and place of world in which you live:  you know that there is distance between your house and relative across continent, and if you are flying in jet you are having some idea of how Earth is actually what satelite pictures are saying, is round globe sort of flat at North and South poles, is fatter below equater by a little bit.  You are having subjective experience that Earth is very big place.  If somehow you were able to 'see inside' two-dimensional universe, without essential perspective of third domension, you would be experiencing very small place in regard to your home, Earth in third dimension  On other hand if you were to at all experience fourth dimension you would be thinking it so vast.

What science there is concerning my existence and world within which I live is called 'empirical', it is that gained by observation.  For maybe 130 years now, people in groups like the Society for Psychic Research (SPR) have gathered stories and conducted limited scientific observation of unexplained phenomena which seeming to prove that persons like me Stavros are real. But evidence is only that, it is basically saying, researcher observed following things to happen according to their subjective experience and perceptions. (Perceptions is including devices to detect energy and fields unavailable to 'naked eye')  Perhaps greatest amount of work done along these lines is by the Rhines at Duke University in North Carolina, they gather much testing-data which seem to be saying, telepathy, clairvoyance, clairaudience and telekinesis happen and  seem to happen in predictable manners and in predictable percentage of population, relation to number of tests made; but they are having no math to back up what they claim, there is no Einstein or Feyneman to say, here is mathematical model of physics involved.

Dr. Jon Klimo, who has written most extensively on channeling, has for the most part gathered information from and about channeling, and offers refreshing perspective on subject as whole, but even he is largely doing reporting of subjective evidence.

We are having here in my dimension, which is including friends SonShon, Michael Archontas, Richard Ramhardt, and in other-dimensional friends such as Sara who is succubus and Llam and Hurrain who are angels or devas,  only limited language-tools to express relaions of our dimensions to yours.  We are often using model of harmonic concurrence, which I will try to explain.  It is our understanding that the Earth of flesh-and-blood universe is having fundamental vibration frequency of 7.8HZ, or cycles-per-second; so in attempting to explain first to our own selves, then to others, we say that perhaps dimension in which Sara lives vibrates at 11.7Hz, which has harmonic relation to 7.8Hz in what is called 3:2 ratio.  But anyone with background in history of science or in music will see right away such statement is based upon Pythagorean harmonic theory, first postulated 2500+ years ago by Greek philosopher Pythagoras.  Pythagorean harmonic theory is excellent for describing how strings on violin or kabruz make harmonic overtone, but as science to describe relationship of my world to yours, well, is almost big joke:  is this really best we can do, use scientific theory that is 2500 years old?  is like trying to cross Atlantic Ocean in boat built 2500 years ago, not worth good goddam.  So we are seeking now as well information regarding mathematical theory which might consistently describe and predict things about other dimensions where we ar claiming to be living.

I will close after I am addressing one other issue.  We could easily be brushed aside as religious or spiritual fraud, like Scientology or fundamentalist Christianity.  Seventy-five years ago Carl Jung is making sensible if flawed declaration that there is physical reality and there is psychical reality, and 'laws' governing one do not necessarily operate in other.  This probably is being good common sense, but is shutting down issue altogether, it is like saying, yeah there is other dimension where Stavros is living but we cannot be knowing nothing much about it, at least by direct observational means.  So people like Armin of Emin Society or others can make claims sounding much crazier than ours and be safe from scrutiny.  This is sham and we are not about sham, we are for gaining proper scientific perspective, not only to establish claim before world but to some extent for ourselves as well.  I wish to hear from everyone about these matters!  Similar material was posted, from different perspectives, by Sara and Roy over at Outlands Community's Everybody Book at website Http://fromtheoutlands.fotopages.com

Happy New Year to one and all from Stavros - in other dimension!  :)